New Counter Argument

Counter argument:

It is argued by Derrick Woolfson:  that living in a queer culture does not make one gay or commit homosexual acts, but rather a conformist to an illegitimate, created, society.

My problem lies with the fact that that queer culture does make one gay whether you commit homosexual acts or not. More so that the society itself was not created rather existed.

For example:

1.     Men who live in the queer culture will adapt to cultural roles, which then makes them gay. The word gay refers to a persona not the actual act of homosexuality, which by definition is the act of having sex with men.

a.     The act of homosexuality refers to the sexual relations between two males.

b.     The word gay refers to the lifestyle and persona that gay men often adapt too while living in the queer culture.

c.     Men often come out as gay as they act on the act of homosexuality.

I believe that stating the culture, queer culture, is created is not how I see the culture evolving: rather, men who have sex with men are automatically placed into a sub cultural group. There are men within the culture that will portray certain cultural traditions, such as effeminate characteristics, which are apart of the gay/queer culture. Furthermore, I understand that not all men who live in the culture may be gay but not homosexual, or rather, the men within the culture may be homosexual and not gay.

For example:

a. There is the possibility that men who act like gay are straight and enjoy sexual relations however: because, they do not enjoy sex with men, still living within queer culture, they then may be seen as the gay cliché. This is a man who takes gay cultural roles to the extreme. Taking the roles to the extreme is merely the gay, straight, man being confused and trying to emulate only what gay men can naturally emulate.

Further:

1.     I shall begin with the fact that prior to Derrick coming out of the closet his piers stated that he was gay referring as he always fit the gay lifestyle. The terms of how Derrick was claimed to have been homosexual were wrong, however, Derrick is a homosexual but not gay.

2.     The piers of Derrick claimed he was gay off his actions not taking into consideration whether or not he had sexual relations with men.

Therefore being gay is not being homosexual, however still makes you apart of queer culture. There are two different words that have been evaluated: Gay, which is the idea of taking on a persona or a personality. Where as the word homosexual refers to the actual act of having sex with men. Derrick is apart of queer culture not because he is gay but because he is a homosexual. More so the word queer by definition refers to anything that is not of the ordinary. Gay and homosexual men both are placed into queer culture. As such queer culture was not created rather existed. Men then who are gay may or may not be homosexuals.